"One of the games that I just mentioned, The Wonderful 101 - Kamiya-san loves that game. I think that was allowing him to do the toys and the game that was more suitable for kids and whatnot. And he was absolutely super proud of being able to make that game, but obviously it didn't sell a ton, which is unfortunate. However, one of the things that they did on that title that they didn't previously is the way that they built it out was different than other games. They focused on the action scenes.

For 101, they actually had the storyboards - they drew those up first. I don't know if you are familiar with the game or not, but basically you move tons and tons of characters in a group. Many of them have their own individual attacks, and you can combine together to form a giant fist composed of all these characters or a giant sword that then cuts the enemy, etc. It was basically just seeing all those unique individual characters team up to fight an enemy that was visually going to be stunning and interesting, and so building up the storyboards, showing how that story and how those visuals work together, was one of the places that they started design on. They'd never done that before, so ultimately they were coming at it from a different approach, even after all these years of making a wide variety of different games, because Kamiya-san himself, he said previously before making that game, he had never seen a game that had so many different characters with un...